Dominique de Villepin unrepentant, triumphant even, on the French veto in 2003:
si la France a brandi son veto aux Nations Unies, c'est tout
simplement parce que si l'on voulait éviter que la résolution
en faveur de la guerre ne soit votée, il fallait convaincre les pays
des neutres, les pays du tiers monde, les pays du sud, des pays comme le
Mexique, comme le Chile, comme le Pakistan, comme l'Angola et ces pays n'auraient
pas accepté livrer bataille face aux Américains, si certains
membres permanents du Conseil de Sécurité, comme la France,
ne prenaient pas toute leur responsabilité parce que cela nous aura
conduit alors à leur demander de faire le travail à notre place
pour finalement nous débiner in fine et de ne pas mettre notre
veto. Donc, il fallait dire que nous allions mettre notre veto pour soutenir
la position de ces pays, si nous voulions véritablement tenir tête
aux Américains. [… inaudible] cohérent. (France Inter, 19 Mar 2008; Extract here.)
This one’s worth translating in full:
if France brandished its veto at the United Nations, it is quite
simply because if one wanted to avoid a resolution in favour of war being
passed, it was necessary to convince neutral countries, the countries of
the third world, the countries of the south, countries like Mexico, like
Chile, like Pakistan or Angola and these countries would not have agreed
to give battle faced by the Americans, if certain permanent members of the
Security Council, like France, did not fully take on their responsibility
because that would then have meant us asking them to do our work for us and
allow us at the end to clear off and not impose our veto. So, it was necessary
to say that we were going to impose our veto in order to support the position
of these countries, if we wanted to truly stand up to the Americans. [… inaudible]
consistent.
What’s really being said here? I tried to analyze it in a fairly technical
way. But first, the context: asked about Nicolas Sarkozy’s attitude concerning
the Iraq crisis, de Villepin said that he was uncomfortable about the style
of France’s diplomacy, but he (de Villepin) defended France against the charge
of “arrogance” and went on to talk about the importance of using the threat
of the veto.
The aim was to avoid a resolution in favour of war being
passed. Earlier, he had said that France’s success was in avoiding a resolution
that would have legalised the war, which would have been an irreparable step,
equating to “a confrontation between East and West”.
But France could simply have simply vetoed the resolution when the time arrived. So, the unstated objective was to avoid France being in a minority, possibly of one, in opposing the war.
The means used was to get the support of other, weaker, countries, to stand up to (give battle to) the Americans.
So, in order to convince these countries, France had to, not only be prepared
to use its veto, but, early on, to say (threaten / brandish) that it was
going to do so.
L'invité d'Inter also featured Hans Blix.
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